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look, florida's a competitive state. everyone knows that. 48% of the people will vote for barack obama no matter what. but we think we can get beyond that and more than that. i think we will do very, very well. i am very confident. i can't guarantee it because have you to do it. but this is what i can guarantee you -- if the folks watching tonight who support governor romney vote and get the people they know who support him to vote, even if the lines are long, we will win florida and we will win the white house. >> greta: senator, nice to see you. it is a cliff hanger as we wind down to tuesday. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> greta: in two minutes, we have one nasty political ad after the next. one campaign is taking a keiner, gentler approach. will it work? will it work? that's 2 minutes wooohooo....hahaahahaha! oh...there you go. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! i'm gonna stand up to her! no you're not. i know. you know ronny folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happ
look, florida's a competitive state. everyone knows that. 48% of the people will vote for barack obama no matter what. but we think we can get beyond that and more than that. i think we will do very, very well. i am very confident. i can't guarantee it because have you to do it. but this is what i can guarantee you -- if the folks watching tonight who support governor romney vote and get the people they know who support him to vote, even if the lines are long, we will win florida and we will...
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you have a army of lawyers going to florida. maybe it would be the biggest jobs program in the history of the country going everywhere and taking months to decide. it is not so great. one of the great problems is the course of culture. it is reflected in alan grayson's and alan west. you have them across the board. we live in a culture where line brings no shame. you get caught in a lie and the lesson is you double down on it and get your own cable television show or you become a political superstar. that is something we really have to deal with on a larger level. we need a vibrant conservative republican party. we need two parties that go at each other but also recognize that most of the issues there is an enormous amount of common ground. these are not black and white questions. it has to be done at a different level. it has to be done with a different set of attitudes. i think he has -- there are others. steven a. wood that was here for a long time run an interesting piece on the future of the conservative movement. we're not
you have a army of lawyers going to florida. maybe it would be the biggest jobs program in the history of the country going everywhere and taking months to decide. it is not so great. one of the great problems is the course of culture. it is reflected in alan grayson's and alan west. you have them across the board. we live in a culture where line brings no shame. you get caught in a lie and the lesson is you double down on it and get your own cable television show or you become a political...
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the romney people are going to florida and virginia. they believe in their model they fear it might be the obama turnout model they play if they are fighting for states that are in the bag. i don't recall an election quite like it. one that is so in the air and so many people i respect who know how to read these things have come totally michael barone somebody i respect who is projecting 300 on the other side for romney. i disagree about them. they are going to disagree with me. >> there are basically two models what percentage democrats vote and what percentage democrats vote. if you look at 2008 the republicans say that's an anomaly. there's so much enthusiasm for president obama. they should look at a different model. two or four more accurate. is that the simplified version of this? >> if thwhat age groups things like that. if i look at the mix you believe that's what your turnout is going to be. the obama people knew from day one of what the model is supposed to look like what the romney people are looking at. they went out and set
the romney people are going to florida and virginia. they believe in their model they fear it might be the obama turnout model they play if they are fighting for states that are in the bag. i don't recall an election quite like it. one that is so in the air and so many people i respect who know how to read these things have come totally michael barone somebody i respect who is projecting 300 on the other side for romney. i disagree about them. they are going to disagree with me. >> there...
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i'm greg gutfeld or as i am known in florida, the gainesville groper. let's go to andy levy for a pre game report. hi, andy. what's coming up on tonight's show, old sport some. >> coming up, why is mitt romney declining interviews with tv tabloids? why it has anything to do with the fact that he is, you know, running for, you know, president of the united states. and did a united states sthor fly to the -- senator fly to the dominican republic fly to have sex with prostitutes ? who care. the shocking answers straight ahead. i guess the shocking answer gives it away. greg? >> everything back to normal in your apartment? >> everything is good to go, greg, yes, thanks for asking. >> i was worried about the cat. >> i can hear the sincerity in your voice. it is dripping with sincerity. >> i know you had a problem with flooding. >> i had no flooding. we talked about this last night. everything was fine. i did not, i cannot stress this enough, i did not eat the cat. the cats are fine. i posted pictures of them holding little new york posts with today's date on
i'm greg gutfeld or as i am known in florida, the gainesville groper. let's go to andy levy for a pre game report. hi, andy. what's coming up on tonight's show, old sport some. >> coming up, why is mitt romney declining interviews with tv tabloids? why it has anything to do with the fact that he is, you know, running for, you know, president of the united states. and did a united states sthor fly to the -- senator fly to the dominican republic fly to have sex with prostitutes ? who care....
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this time when florida comes in, he'll get 50 out of 50 right. who else did i rely on? "huffington post" pollsters. do you know how many states they got right? 50 out of 50. you know why? because they did math. they didn't say these are the things we want to happen. they said this is what the polling, the combination of polling indicates. see, we have logic, we have reasons. not the republicans say this, the democrats say this, golly gee, what do i do? you do math. that's what you do. that's why we were right and they were wrong. now we go to the second part of the media. some tweeted last night. obama is going to win and i wonder if they're going to call this even. they can't call it even if the guy won the presidency. well, they were saying it's not a mandate. all over it's not a mandate. back in 2004 do you know how many electoral votes george bush won, 286. that's a big number. what did president bush say about that right afterwards? >> i earned capital political capital, now i intend to spend it. >> cenk: the entire media went along with it, he has a mandate. 286.
this time when florida comes in, he'll get 50 out of 50 right. who else did i rely on? "huffington post" pollsters. do you know how many states they got right? 50 out of 50. you know why? because they did math. they didn't say these are the things we want to happen. they said this is what the polling, the combination of polling indicates. see, we have logic, we have reasons. not the republicans say this, the democrats say this, golly gee, what do i do? you do math. that's what you do....
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because florida, you lose florida and everybody including you and scott thought florida was going to go to governor romney. you got rubio on the ticket. florida goes. and then you deintensify instead of 71%, scott, you maybe have 65% or 66%. that could have been enough. >> that could have been enough. bill, i think we are missing one part of this. elections are still about fundamentals, the president's job approval was at 50%. that was his share of the vote. his job approval was at auto% because the economy was a little bit better than the day he was elected. that put him in position to be competitive and that's why the matter. >> shepard: looking at the sheet, he won very very small. >> very small. >> but 50% job approval. 50% of the vote. >> bill: thanks very much. next on the run down, dick morris, under heavy guard, will tell us how he mispredicted the entire thing. later dennis miller and bernie goldberg will analyze the election for us as well. and we're coming right back. personal story segment tonight, perhaps the most disappointed person in the country besides mitt romney is
because florida, you lose florida and everybody including you and scott thought florida was going to go to governor romney. you got rubio on the ticket. florida goes. and then you deintensify instead of 71%, scott, you maybe have 65% or 66%. that could have been enough. >> that could have been enough. bill, i think we are missing one part of this. elections are still about fundamentals, the president's job approval was at 50%. that was his share of the vote. his job approval was at auto%...
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up next florida congressman allen west. the race is heated >>> the rice on to get power restored across the northeast as temperatures dip near freezing. nearly two million homes don't interest electricity. forecasters predicting a nor'easter will slam the region on wednesday. the new jersey governor saying significant progress mass been made toward getting power back on in his state. the feds are looking for apartments and hotels ferriheme who have no place to live. fuel shortages still a problem. gas rationing in new jersey. new york's mayor saying the problems are getting better. he is louisiana advising those riding buses and subways to expect a crowded monday morning commute. i'm marianne rafferty. back to "on the record." for the latest headlines, log on to fox news .com. . >> oo the fight for florida it is a flood fest. tampa bay times bay news 9 leaves president obama 51 percent to 25 percent in florida. the college poll president obama is leading governor romney 49 percent to 47 percent. 8 point difference between t
up next florida congressman allen west. the race is heated >>> the rice on to get power restored across the northeast as temperatures dip near freezing. nearly two million homes don't interest electricity. forecasters predicting a nor'easter will slam the region on wednesday. the new jersey governor saying significant progress mass been made toward getting power back on in his state. the feds are looking for apartments and hotels ferriheme who have no place to live. fuel shortages...
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and adam west is demanding a full redown in his florida county. the colonel is here and calling the whole process a sham. and allegations of voter fraud surfacing in pennsylvania and ohio. we will investigate when we come back. >> while florida is declaring the race is over, my next guest is not giving up yet. he is demanding a full recount. only about 1900 votes he trails by. the latest challenge comes after >> the coming up, dick morris. he was so far off in his election predictions. why a lot of people are angry with him. and what the next four years of obama will bring? i can sum it up in one word, regulations. you. meet the 5-passenger ford c-max hybrid. you. when you're carrying a lot of weight, c-max has a nice little trait, you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that's not all you'll see, cause c-max also beats prius v, with better mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. but they haven't experienced extra strength bayer advanced aspirin. in fact, in a recent survey, 95% of people
and adam west is demanding a full redown in his florida county. the colonel is here and calling the whole process a sham. and allegations of voter fraud surfacing in pennsylvania and ohio. we will investigate when we come back. >> while florida is declaring the race is over, my next guest is not giving up yet. he is demanding a full recount. only about 1900 votes he trails by. the latest challenge comes after >> the coming up, dick morris. he was so far off in his election...
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they used to rain in florida but that is it. the enthusiasm is on the g.o.p. side. >>neil: you talk about usually voting and versus later voting with better than 30 million americans having already voted and that changes the cram ma. significantly so? do you want to break it down? >>guest: the obama campaign is nervous about the youth vote and excited about president obama in 2008 and less so four years later so they were urging students to vote early before election day and that was their big push because they were worried about apathy among the youth. could it make a difference? yes, we have seen obama campaign advisor say, wait, if exit polls come out they could be good news for republicans but we have a lost votes banked early. do not panic. >>neil: there is talk with the polls and the various surveys and various states they underrepresent written support and you heard it a million times and we have talked about it, but is that a legitimate issue? in other words, you talk to obama folk as lot of whom will say, they want to be beyond the margin of error, so, in o
they used to rain in florida but that is it. the enthusiasm is on the g.o.p. side. >>neil: you talk about usually voting and versus later voting with better than 30 million americans having already voted and that changes the cram ma. significantly so? do you want to break it down? >>guest: the obama campaign is nervous about the youth vote and excited about president obama in 2008 and less so four years later so they were urging students to vote early before election day and that...
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with florida his electoral vote victory is 332-206. bush was 51-48 margin in 2004 india 286 votes and obama was slightly less it appears against 332. i think there is a certain structure of demographic advantage for democrats in the electoral college in this era. democratic voters tend to be clustered into large metropolitan areas and in particular neighborhoods and they give them a craft an initial advantage in the electoral college. president obama got 57% or more of the popular vote in 11 states and the district of columbia and they have 163 electoral votes. romney won 13 states by such margins but they only have 104 electoral votes of basically the democrats have a bigger hunting ground and and a larger base in the electoral college and the mere hunting ground to go find those votes and barack obama into campaigns has been successful with 365 and apparently 332 this time in 303 if he doesn't carry florida. this election cycle has been compared by many people to 2004, the election and re-election of an adnan, and by mobilizing suppo
with florida his electoral vote victory is 332-206. bush was 51-48 margin in 2004 india 286 votes and obama was slightly less it appears against 332. i think there is a certain structure of demographic advantage for democrats in the electoral college in this era. democratic voters tend to be clustered into large metropolitan areas and in particular neighborhoods and they give them a craft an initial advantage in the electoral college. president obama got 57% or more of the popular vote in 11...
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and adam west is demanding a full redown in his florida county. the colonel is here and calling the whole process a sham. and allegations of voter fraud surfacing in pennsylvania and ohio. we will investigate when we come we will investigate when we come back. sometimes life can be well, a little uncomfortable. but when it's hard or hurts to go to the bathroom, there's dulcolax stool softener. dulcolax stool softener doesn't make you go, it just makes it easier to go. dulcolax stool softener. make yourself comfortable. >> greta: we are almost one week removed from the election and my next guest isn't getting out of his seat just yet, allen west is demanding a full recount. now this, latest challenge after a partial recount of early votes in a county conducted and voting irregularities are not confined to florida. there are reports of unusual trends, rom fee did not get a single vote not one of 59 voting divisions in philly. in ohio, obama won 100% of the vote. here is more with the sus spishus voting trends, alan west. 59 divisions, 19,605 votes f
and adam west is demanding a full redown in his florida county. the colonel is here and calling the whole process a sham. and allegations of voter fraud surfacing in pennsylvania and ohio. we will investigate when we come we will investigate when we come back. sometimes life can be well, a little uncomfortable. but when it's hard or hurts to go to the bathroom, there's dulcolax stool softener. dulcolax stool softener doesn't make you go, it just makes it easier to go. dulcolax stool softener....
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mitt romney was in florida. even if he loses florida. pinned in florida which he cannot win the presidency without. wisconsin, iowa and new hampshire, one thing no one has mentioned, same day registration. barackbarack obama's campaign ny better than doing same day registration. nobody getting better to the polls like they did with early registration. same thing tomorrow big difference. >> bill: i agree with you in new hampshire. it doesn't look like romney is going to pull that one out. iowa. you know, the latest poll out there, dead heat. dead heat always go to the challenger. i would say romney got a good chance there wisconsin, that would be the upset that he needs. thought reason i think mitt romney was in florida because he has to have that. you have to start there. at 7:00 tomorrow the polls close in florida except for the panhandle sliver. if baier and kelly go, obama wins. good night, everybody. let's go over to gossip girls. it's all over right? that's it. lawsuit i don't want to miss gossip girls unless i have absolutely have
mitt romney was in florida. even if he loses florida. pinned in florida which he cannot win the presidency without. wisconsin, iowa and new hampshire, one thing no one has mentioned, same day registration. barackbarack obama's campaign ny better than doing same day registration. nobody getting better to the polls like they did with early registration. same thing tomorrow big difference. >> bill: i agree with you in new hampshire. it doesn't look like romney is going to pull that one out....
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and in florida there were more shark attacks in the first 2010 than the case of voter fraud. how has this taken traction? these courts has not done away with it. they said we have to wait and see and then implement. >> we were discussing this before the show, right? if you look at the presidential election, and the voter turnout numbers that the obama campaign was able to get out higher turnouts despite the laws that are in the process of being passed. you get into a situation where grassroots organizations are going to spend that much more money and that much more preparation and get into the game that much earlier with lawyers and what not to try to get around these things. or to not get around them, but to ensure whatever new laws are passed their voters can apply it. >> michael: tricia, the civil rights movement, it's different than being able to sit down at the bus or the launch counter. is there motivation? >> it's no question, it's a different time. we're in a different era and strategies are different. when you said alabama is close to perfect as it is, i have to tell
and in florida there were more shark attacks in the first 2010 than the case of voter fraud. how has this taken traction? these courts has not done away with it. they said we have to wait and see and then implement. >> we were discussing this before the show, right? if you look at the presidential election, and the voter turnout numbers that the obama campaign was able to get out higher turnouts despite the laws that are in the process of being passed. you get into a situation where...
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orange county, florida, osceola county, florida. i do this because, you know, i'm hearing whispers. first of all, chris, i just think that apology was an unbelievable apology. as heart-felas i've heard anybody do, when they feel as if they've done something they need to apologize for. >> i just shouldn't have said it. i know why i thought i said it, i shouldn't have said it. >> i commend you for it. i want to bring sandy up for a reason because there's a lot of whispering among republican operatives in the romney campaign, oh, if it wasn't for sandy. that is not -- look at -- what happened in the state of florida, would have happened if the election had been september 6th, october 6th or november 6th. this was structural. this was demographic. this had nothing to do with any issue. no auto bailout. no sandy. no any other effects. and so any other excuse that some republicans make is whistling past their grave yards. >> you accept it's more about demographics, more latino voters, up 10%, almost 11%, almost maxing out. a pretty good showing among white voters, about 39, about the leve
orange county, florida, osceola county, florida. i do this because, you know, i'm hearing whispers. first of all, chris, i just think that apology was an unbelievable apology. as heart-felas i've heard anybody do, when they feel as if they've done something they need to apologize for. >> i just shouldn't have said it. i know why i thought i said it, i shouldn't have said it. >> i commend you for it. i want to bring sandy up for a reason because there's a lot of whispering among...
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he's at 303, he could be at 330 with florida. it's a squeaker? >> because there is this age of unreality. because conservatives -- >> even after the election's been counted, unreality continues. didn't happen. >> doesn't happen. >> and it will never happen. >> the president's not been re-elected. >> i watched a little bit of a certain network today because i wanted to experience it for myself. if you livet universe they've hermetically sealed themselves inside, barack obama can only be ected through fraud, there are no actualsuppo hypnotized -- >> i so appreciate you explaining this to me. >> they've developed this alternate reality because it feels good. and, unfortunately, they haven't -- there's no adult in that party who can say to the voters on the republican side, you lost this election and here's why. you're too extreme and let me explain to you why that invitens people. there isn't anyone. even mitt romney doesn't have the stature to do it. >> we are watching the first family arriving at the airport in chicago, about to board air force on
he's at 303, he could be at 330 with florida. it's a squeaker? >> because there is this age of unreality. because conservatives -- >> even after the election's been counted, unreality continues. didn't happen. >> doesn't happen. >> and it will never happen. >> the president's not been re-elected. >> i watched a little bit of a certain network today because i wanted to experience it for myself. if you livet universe they've hermetically sealed themselves...
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in florida in ohio. and neither state being actually able to manage what they've put in place which are these huge lines and not having the infrastructure in place to actually get people through the polls in a speedy process. >> now, we just showed a bunch of pictures there that were all in ohio and florida huge lines. let me give the audience a sense of how targeted this is. voting restrictions in ohio, 28 precincts, and they were all -- i shouldn't say all -- they were mostly african-american, and then when you see the numbers in pennsylvania precincts that were targeted for mitt romney poll watchers were 79% african-american and in miami dade in florida where you had the restriction 64.5% hispanic, 19.3% black. rashad, how do you fight back? if you have republican governors willing to be this brazen. look that those stark numbers and say, i don't care, by hook or crook i'll limit your vote. how do you fight back? >> we have been fighting back a number of months. we've won and lost battles. in ohio, ju
in florida in ohio. and neither state being actually able to manage what they've put in place which are these huge lines and not having the infrastructure in place to actually get people through the polls in a speedy process. >> now, we just showed a bunch of pictures there that were all in ohio and florida huge lines. let me give the audience a sense of how targeted this is. voting restrictions in ohio, 28 precincts, and they were all -- i shouldn't say all -- they were mostly...
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in florida, they have obama ahead by 1 point. they have seven points more democrats than republicans. even in 2008 there were only 3 points more democrats than republicans. similarly ohio 5 point margin for obama. 8 point advantage for the democrats. 8 points in 2008. does anybody think ohio is going to be as democrat as it was in 2008. 2 points for obama. 8 point democrat in 2008. six points democrat. does anybody think it's going to be as good as it was in 2008. at mildly that's called absurd. >> bill: let me run it down for the folks. all the polls say, all of them say that prib voters are more motivated this time around. so when when mr. rove says do you think it's going to be the same democratic turnout in ohio as it was in 2008. the answer based on the data is no. because republicans are more motivated this time around than they were. secondly, when you poll, you take a political affiliation of people you call. as mr. rove just told us on his little board, his little white board he takes everywhere they poll more democrats
in florida, they have obama ahead by 1 point. they have seven points more democrats than republicans. even in 2008 there were only 3 points more democrats than republicans. similarly ohio 5 point margin for obama. 8 point advantage for the democrats. 8 points in 2008. does anybody think ohio is going to be as democrat as it was in 2008. 2 points for obama. 8 point democrat in 2008. six points democrat. does anybody think it's going to be as good as it was in 2008. at mildly that's called...
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million of that for mitt romney against barack obama, and then on election night, he tried to recreate florida again by insisting that the network, fox, was wrong in calling the election for obama. the fox number-cruncher's said, "no, you are wrong." -- the fox number-crunchers said, "no, you are wrong." i think his career in politics should be over, and show -- and so should dick morris's. he is getting all of these people's money, spending it for mitt romney, and then he is on fox news as a supposedly independent political commentator, and he is writing a column for rupert murdoch's " wall street journal." host: and on the lecture circuit. guest: his time in american politics has come and gone. host: our guest is bill press. bill press. onawful election night proved you cannot buy momentum." guest: karl rove at one time talked about a total realignment, and in this one again, the republicans lost the white house. two elections in a row. they lost ground in the senate. they lost ground in the house. and then you have karl rove with this rosy look on his face saying, "we won." he said, "we had
million of that for mitt romney against barack obama, and then on election night, he tried to recreate florida again by insisting that the network, fox, was wrong in calling the election for obama. the fox number-cruncher's said, "no, you are wrong." -- the fox number-crunchers said, "no, you are wrong." i think his career in politics should be over, and show -- and so should dick morris's. he is getting all of these people's money, spending it for mitt romney, and then he...
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things look good in florida. if you look at florida, you look at states like virginia, ohio, colorado, early voting, you see the trends, democrats, the president dramatically down. huge gains for republicans. but a lot of these national polls have it close and state-wide polls have it close. how do you interpret it? >> i don't know about the policy. i can tell you this, the reason why barack obama won by such a margin in 2008 is the had huge margins up to election day. and in florida, their margins, nor democrats than republicans voting, it's down by half. they are going to lose election day. so he doesn't have nearly enough lead in terms of that registration gap going into election day. and by the way, all the policy show the independents in florida are trending toward romney. it's very possible that tonight as we go into election day romney could actually be up by 200,000 or 300,000 votes going into election day in florida. soy i feel great about florida and we are seeing similar numbers across-country places l
things look good in florida. if you look at florida, you look at states like virginia, ohio, colorado, early voting, you see the trends, democrats, the president dramatically down. huge gains for republicans. but a lot of these national polls have it close and state-wide polls have it close. how do you interpret it? >> i don't know about the policy. i can tell you this, the reason why barack obama won by such a margin in 2008 is the had huge margins up to election day. and in florida,...
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and so kent mentioned earlier the case out of florida in the sue presume court graham in which the court said the juvenile should be treated differently with respect to life without the possibility of parole. the same happened in simmons where the court has treated juveniles differently. it may be the case we can start to do that. we can start to categorize people. we categorized a group of individuals in virginia and said those people who have mental retardation have lesser couple ability for a whole host of reasons, they're more likely to follow people. they're more likely to be subject to peer pressure, less likely to have made premeditated decision-making. that's probably where this evidence is the most useful. we have a standard in criminal law called the reasonable person standard. this fictitious person that we measure everybody's conduct by. we say this is the person, the average person, the average juror, the average individual, the kind of conduct that we would expect an average member of society to live up to. well, as it turns out that none of us are quite average, right. and
and so kent mentioned earlier the case out of florida in the sue presume court graham in which the court said the juvenile should be treated differently with respect to life without the possibility of parole. the same happened in simmons where the court has treated juveniles differently. it may be the case we can start to do that. we can start to categorize people. we categorized a group of individuals in virginia and said those people who have mental retardation have lesser couple ability for...